Daily Dose of Sexism

Isabel Knight · **Posted:** Sat Dec 18, 2010 10:07 pm

Maybe he didn't understand what misogynist meant? That's seriously the only thing I can come up with to explain what appears to be a total logical disconnect. Gah. What a freaking douchebag.

Not to mention the sheer creepiness of asking someone to "wash the sand out." I know it's usually used to imply that someone is cranky but it always weirds me out big time - the only time I've heard of a woman actually having sand in her vagina was an incident my American History prof brought up [TW] historical incident of rape/genocide, deeply disturbed me to hear about in class

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So telling someone to "wash the sand out of their vagina" always creeps me right the fuck out.

Eirwyn · **Posted:** Sun Dec 19, 2010 12:59 am

...:C ._. I can see why that would creep you out.

Llencelyn · **Joined:** Sun Apr 25, 2010 6:04 am **Posts:** 258

I've got one! The guy is my best friend's brother, and I have finally decided to put him on my limited profile list that will prevent him from seeing my status updates. Despite identifying as a liberal, every single political statement I make, he argues with. Talk about fauxgressive.

On Facebook:

Quote:

My status: Dear TV, it is not cute or romantic when the guy goes to the woman's family to ask permission to marry her. It is infantilizing and, frankly, a bit disturbing. Love, Jamie.

Douchebag: I agree insofar as I personally find the concept unappealing, but I can see how, for someone with a different cultural background, it might be totally appropriate.

Me: I'd be really interested in hearing of a situation in which that could possibly be appropriate.

Douchebag: You're viewing a symbolic ceremony as strictly literal when a lot of the time, it's not. That's certainly not how it's meant in movies or on television. It can be a sign of respect for the role that families play in a marriage. Maybe it ...IS a reflection of a feeling of ownership for some people, and that's deplorable. But I don't think we can blindly demonize people who find it to be a harmless tradition.

Me: *facepalm*

Douchebag: You really want to dictate to the rest of the world how to live their lives? It just seems disturbingly arrogant, and it's exactly why they hate the left so much.

At this point I'm pretty much speechless, and there's no fucking way I'm going to fight with this guy *on Facebook* about cultural relativism, human rights, women-as-fully-human, women-as-adults/the infantilization of women, etc. Not worth my fucking time.

Sorry about the language but this upset me.

ETA: I'll admit I am kinda hoping for some good responses, though, because I feel like if I remain silent, it means he wins. Or something... >.>

Eirwyn · **Posted:** Thu Jan 13, 2011 4:14 am

Ugh, the wishy-washiness. "I AGREE IT'S KIND OF BAD BUT..."

Tevarre · **Posted:** Thu Jan 13, 2011 6:57 am

Ooooh, don'tcha just love the 'progressive' dude who's so preoccupied 'bout women gettin' all uppity in his space (or, y'know, any space that he's aware of) that he just has to comment? Uuuuugh, STFU dudebro...

MomTFH · **Posted:** Thu Jan 13, 2011 4:17 pm

Ugh. I hate it when fauxgressives always think you need someone to explain the rationalization of the other side to you. Why don't they support the progressive side? Like you didn't know it was culturally enforced? And, he is being racist by saying it's only those backward people of different cultural backgrounds. And, he's insulting you for "blindly" demonizing them. Really? How about, you put some in deep thought into it, and you are criticizing it.

There is someone on FB who is actually arguing a point I agree with right now (allowing images of breastfeeding and natural childbirth on FB), but she deleted a comment by someone who disagrees with her and said she did it because she doesn't think the poster "thought it out" before she posted and doesn't want to subject her to being disagreed with by everyone on her page. I find that insulting. People who disagree with you are not necessarily being thoughtless.

Lady Jess · **Joined:** Wed Dec 15, 2010 2:32 am **Posts:** 32

Wow. What fail! Especially when you're talking about movies and TV, not someone's actual practices. Especially since it happens in movies and TV that depict the local dominant culture, not some theoretical other culture that isn't ours, and we should respect etc. Especially when that practice is, independent of culture, clearly paternalistic.

Sorry...

Graphite · **Joined:** Tue May 18, 2010 1:35 am **Posts:** 88

...I ...suppose I think he had a point? Whilst it is a paternalistic tradition, so is taking on a husband's surname, but there are feminists who find beauty and meaning in that for various reasons. Perhaps a tradition that is less "permission" and more "tell family as a formality, to acknowledge the fact that the family is close to the potential spouse and the spouse enjoys the notion of acknowledging the blending of families by discussing this with said families".

Kaie · **Posted:** Fri Jan 14, 2011 2:21 pm

I can totally see the "I find you important, so I am giving you the courtesy of letting you know," but there are quite a number of people who firmly believe in the "asking the father's permission" aspect. As in, the daughters won't say yes unless they know their father has given permission. Or the guy asking ... well, won't ASK until/unless he gets permission.

It's very troubling. Most of them are part of the new patriarchy movement, or whatever the fuck fundies are calling themselves these days.

Lady Jess · **Joined:** Wed Dec 15, 2010 2:32 am **Posts:** 32

Oh Joe Lieberman. Thank you for leaving politics.

Personally, I've hated you since you started attacking video games in the 90s. Support for the iraq war, defection to the republicans is just the recent reasons to hate you. The fact that you are a condescending misogynist is just icing on the cake.

Ding dong...

Sigh. I hate people sometimes...

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