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 Post subject: Re: Parental Abuse
PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 2:10 am 
Yeah. My brother's breaking up with his girlfriend, and she's moving out of their apartment, so without her money to help pay the rent he won't be able to afford the place. So he's moving back into the house with me and my mom, and I don't have any place to go because my dad lives in a two bedroom apartment with two other people and doesn't feel like putting me up in the livingroom.

(TW: self-harm)
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It's always been abusive. He's the reason I cut myself so bad I had to go to the hospital that one night when I was thirteen- that was the first time I was put on a 51 50. That night he had been pushing me around and yelling at me.


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 Post subject: Re: Parental Abuse
PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 6:05 am 
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Oh Eirwyn, I'm really sorry. I hope you're able to find a haven from him, and that your mom will stick up for you. Please don't harm yourself.

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 Post subject: Re: Parental Abuse
PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 6:09 am 
*Hugs.* Thank you, Isabel. Maybe I just have to suck it up and go to a group home or something. I just don't want to go because it'll uproot my life and disconnect me from my friends. I imagine they don't have internet at group homes, and my life centers pretty heavily on internet right now, as all of my friends are online friends.


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 Post subject: Re: Parental Abuse
PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 10:11 am 
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I wish I could do something to help, but all I have to offer right now are *hugs* If you do have to move into a group home, hopefully it would just be a short term thing, until your brother moves back out of the house. Maybe you could talk to your parents and grandparents about helping you buy a really basic netbook (I think you can find some for under 300), something that would at least let you get online and thus stay in touch (with your friends as well as with your family) anywhere with a wireless signal? I don't know if it's feasible, though.

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Oh fuck it, I'm a monster, I admit it!
It makes me so mad my blood really starts a-going
La la la la, la la la lie
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 Post subject: Re: Parental Abuse
PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 2:09 pm 
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Oh Eirwyn, I'm sorry - that's really awful. Anytime you'd like a *hug*, I've got one for you.

In situations like these I have to be really careful not to slide into victim-blaming 'minimisation' strategies, because until my older brother moved out when I was 15, life at home included a relentless stream of humiliation and abuse from him, so my first reaction still defaults to 'how can I make sure that I don't get abused?' Thankfully, I've never had to go back to living with him (ironically though, I'm about to move back into Mum's place).

Over time, I've started thinking about the difficulty of dealing with abuse in sibling relationships. There's this narrative about 'difficult' sibling relationships where it's so 'normal' for siblings to fight that it allows situations that are actually abusive to fly under the radar, and I think that makes it very difficult to deal with the (generally) ongoing nature of sibling relationships.

When you're stuck in a sibling relationship that has crossed the boundary from 'difficult' to 'abusive', I think it's very common for your articulation of how much that position sucks to be dismissed, because 'everyone fights with their siblings', so you should just grow up and get over it; in my experience, that reaction was so ubiquitous that even though I had an awareness of the abusive relationships I had with my siblings, I still disbelieved my own knowledge and experience of it. Mental illness and gender also add layers of difficulty - clearly, you're too 'psycho' or 'hormonal' to be able to react to anything 'reasonably', and therefore your experience is irrelevant.

One of the things I found useful in dealing with the way an abused sibling becomes invisible as a result of this narrative was a sort of 2-stream analysis of my brothers' behaviour. Into stream 1 went things that modified what was 'reasonable' for them: factors (about them) that affected what could be construed as 'acceptable' behaviour from them (i.e. my younger brother's ADHD, my older brother's breakups); into stream 2 went the things that lay outside of acceptable standards. This isn't really sophisticated enough to deal with the fact that no matter what a person is experiencing, they have no right to inflict abuse on others, but I did find it useful to have some kind of corroboration that I wasn't overreacting to their behaviour, and to learn to react to reasonable behaviour from them in a reasonable manner - experiencing their abuse, I learned over time to respond to everything that related to them as though it were abusive.

Just a note: I'm going to add spoiler tags to the segments of your posts which deal with self-harm; I don't want to discourage you from talking about it, but I'd like to make sure it's TW'd for people for whom it's a trigger.


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 Post subject: Re: Parental Abuse
PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 2:39 pm 
@Isabel: *Hugs.* I really appreciate the internet hugs. They do make me feel better. Well, my uncle has promised me a laptop, so hopefully he'll come through on that. I'm going to still need a router, but I have some birthday money I can put to use toward that.

@Tevarre: *Hugs.* Thanks for the hug.

I'm sorry to hear that your relationships with your siblings have been abusive, too. xC As you say, people tend to take it lightly. My mom doesn't seem to outright deny that my brother is abusive toward me, but neither does she seem to take my concerns about him moving back in with us seriously. She assures me he won't be able to do anything to me, but he did something to me last night right under her nose.

That's a good tip, and one I should have been using with my mother for a while now. I tend to be very high strung and the least bit of annoyance from her will set me off.

Someone else also suggested that I see a therapist with my family to work things out. My brother is anti-therapy, though, and they're both sort of messed up enough that it might not work, so I don't have high hopes for that.

Also: Sorry for neglecting to spoiler things. xC I have a hard time figuring out what is going to be triggering, so I should err on the side of caution next time.


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 Post subject: Re: Parental Abuse
PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 11:21 pm 
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Oh, Eirwyn, I'm so sorry. *hands you a big box of hugs* Please don't hurt yourself. I care about you and I want you to be happy and safe.


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 Post subject: Re: Parental Abuse
PostPosted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 1:43 am 
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Thanks, Tevarre. I should have done that.


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 Post subject: Re: Parental Abuse
PostPosted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 1:49 am 
*Hugs.* Thank you, Hex.


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 Post subject: Re: Parental Abuse
PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 3:18 pm 
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I have abusive parents and a long history of abuse in my family in general. Going to share as a trigger-boxy-hidey-thing. Warning, contains physical, mental, attempted rape and slight sexual abuse as well as self harm stuff.
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I am not sure where to begin so I will likely be all over the place like a little kid hopped up on pixy sticks. I apologize in advance.

My parents both had abusive parents. My dad's dad sexually abused his kids, mostly the girls. My mother's father was verbally and physically abusive. My father and mother met in a bar, another man was in the process of attempting to rape my mother and my father stopped him. It was the 70's and they never reported the attempted date rape.

When I was a baby my mother noticed my father had a bad temper. He would yell, swear and throw things at the slightest provocation but she stayed and had another kid with him instead of taking off. She had poor self esteem so she really didn't think what he did was so bad as long as he didn't hit her.

I think I first realized my dad was abusive when I was 8. My parents had a bad fight and during it my mother ran crying up the stairs and locked herself in the bedroom. My father chased after her with a butcher knife in his hand. I was terrified that my parents were about to kill each other and I called the police. My mother refused to press charges and my father played it off like he was going to use the knife to open the lock to the door, one that my sister and I could easily turn unaided with our thumbs at 8 and 6. After a few instances of me calling the police during the scarier fights with my father throwing things other than swears at my mom, sister and self around he wised up and would rip the phones out of the wall. In later years he would also disable my mothers car after a fight in addition to removing the phones so we could not leave.

My dad wouldn't hit my mom but he delighted in hitting my sister and I for anything. He would tease us, call us names and when we cried he would hit us for crying. Our parents would blame us for their fights. I remember going out once in the wrong sneakers to play in the woods and my father chased me into them and then dragged me back by my hair hitting me every time I slowed down too much. I was so embarrassed because my friends were there to see it. He got arrested for punching me in the face in public when I was 15 shortly after I dropped out of school. My mother told me that unless I told the court that it was the only time I had been hit and that I deserved it that we would be homeless. I did what she said although the person I spoke to at the courthouse didn't look convinced seeing the scars on my arms in legs both from my rough childhood and my own habit of cutting up my forearms when stressed out.

My dad never really touched me sexually as a child but he did weird creepy things that made me really uncomfortable. When I was home sick one day he climbed in my bunk bed and cuddled up to me, it made me really uncomfortable. He started whispering that girls do stuff to themselves and sometimes stick things like carrots or coke bottles into themselves for fun and I should try it. I don't remember how old I was I just know that I was in elementary school still and that I slept with stuffed animals...also...we had 2 liter coke bottles.....imagine the horror and confusion that is somewhat comical in a sad sick way on that one. When he got a camcorder he would zoom in on both my sister and I in the chest, crotch and butt. We were prepubescent, he would say things like "nice tits, look at that ass" and stuff. My mother thought it was a family movie and kept it for years not realizing how wrong it was.

My mother was no saint but her abuse was always mental. My sister and I got blamed for everything. One day she got pulled over driving us to the park and she had an expired license. She screamed at me and my sister that she was going to jail because we wanted to go to the park.

When I was 19 we were homeless but staying at my aunts for a little bit. I attempted suicide by stepping into traffic, I failed (thankfully) and when my boyfriend at the time called my mom to let her know, they all refused to come pick me up so his mom got me and took me home. I got some money from the persons car insurance and I used that to move out into my own apartment. I tried to keep in touch with my parents and even tried to run home to my dad when my first husband started punching me. I lasted two days with him before he got drunk and tried to grab my breast and kiss me in his bedroom. I pushed him off me and locked myself in the bathroom and intended on attempting suicide again but had no means to in there, I got control of myself and grabbed what I could of my stuff and went back to my husband and lasted another year before I couldn't take it anymore and left again leaving myself homeless again and staying on friends floors and sleeping in my car when I couldn't secure something better. Most of my realization other than the initial stuff when I was a kid about the abuse came to me after a nightmare while on my friends couch one night. In it I was being raped by my father while my mother stood there ignoring it and my calls for help. I woke up in tears and it all fell into place. I realized I had to deal with what happened to me in my past before I could have a healthy present or future.

I picked up self help books, I confronted my parents via phone and email, this ended badly. I was called crazy, overly emotional and eventually my mother started to just tell me to get over it and my father started to stalk me online and at one point sent my friends address where I was staying to me over and over via myspace. I changed what contact info I have and started to carry mace.

I cope the best I can. I have good days and I have bad days. I miss the idea of my family but every time I try to contact my mom it ends the same. She just is not stable enough to not hurt me. I love her for the good stuff she did do when I was a kid but the bad usually outweighs it. I can't have the bad in my life anymore. I feel lost and alone a lot. I hurt and ache to tell my mom how something awesome happened to me or something upset me. I miss the illusion to some degree but I do not for a second miss the abuse.

So, um...there is a lot of disjointed stuff that I clenched my jaw through writing. I hope it makes sense, I know I missed stuff but there is just so much and I get emotional talking/writing about it so for now this is the best I can share.


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