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 Post subject: Crosstalk?
PostPosted: Tue May 18, 2010 10:02 pm 
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I am not exactly familiar with the 12 steps programms so I don't know what "crosstalk" means. When I google it I seem to get pages about software management and I think that can't be what crosstalk means here. Can someone please educate me?


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 Post subject: Re: Crosstalk?
PostPosted: Tue May 18, 2010 10:07 pm 
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As far as I can tell from reading how Harriet uses it, crosstalk means giving someone advice, telling them what you would have done in their situation, or asking them why they didn't do this or that. I'm not familiar with 12-step programs either, but that's my best guess.

(Does this thread belong in the Educate Me 101 forum? I suppose it's not the most pressing issue in the world, since right now both forums are otherwise empty...)


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 Post subject: Re: Crosstalk?
PostPosted: Tue May 18, 2010 10:11 pm 
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I'm not sure, right now there are so many forums I don't really know where to talk about what! But thank you for your explanation, this definitely sounds plausible!


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 Post subject: Re: Crosstalk?
PostPosted: Tue May 18, 2010 10:13 pm 
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Learn Hexadecimal wrote:
(Does this thread belong in the Educate Me 101 forum? I suppose it's not the most pressing issue in the world, since right now both forums are otherwise empty...)


As I understand it currently, the Educate Me 101 forum is specifically for issues of privilege and "101" explanations of basic activist/anti-ism terminology. E.g. explaining that racism = prejudice + power. Based on the context, asking for a definition of "crosstalk" as it pertains to discussions of "12-step programs" would not fall into the 101 category. This, however, has not been definitively established and perhaps other mods will disagree.

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 Post subject: Re: Crosstalk?
PostPosted: Tue May 18, 2010 10:40 pm 
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Sorry to poke my head in! I'm still hanging around while everything gets started to address little issues.

You guys have a pretty good starting definition of crosstalk. For a more in-depth definition and discussion, I found a link:

http://www.cyberrecovery.net/forums/showthread.php?t=22337

I'll also note that usually in 12-step meetings, people are allowed to solicit crosstalk, if they'd like to hear some advice or feedback. But crosstalk has to be specifically requested; the default assumption is that it won't be a part of the conversation without consent.

I'll also second the mods in saying that I don't think that belongs in 101. 101, in my mind, is a place for people to ask ignorant questions that are probably privileged and probably offensive, but the asker is genuine in their intention to understand. Intention doesn't trump effect, though, and the effect of 101 questions is often a chill on a good conversation, or a huge attention-sucking derail. I wanted to set up a space where people have permission to ask those questions, so they don't feel compelled to trot them out in the middle of a good conversation. Additionally, anybody who wants to read the 101 forum, or answer questions, is going to know what they're getting into, whereas somebody on a thread discussing the finer points of Shulamith Firestone is going to be blindsided by a question about why ladies sometimes wear shirts that show their boobs but then still want respect 'n stuff.

I wouldn't consider this 101, as you're just asking for a clarification of a definition so (ostensibly) you can make a good faith attempt to participate in conversations on the terms others have asked you to abide by. I think 101 would be, say, asking an alcoholic why they didn't just stop drinking already.

That was my intention with these rules and forums. All that being said, the forum belongs to the moderators now, and however they want to run it is gets my approval, so all that can change.


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 Post subject: Re: Crosstalk?
PostPosted: Tue May 18, 2010 10:44 pm 
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Thanks for the link and the explanation, Harriet. That is a crystal-clear definition of what a 101 space is for, and I for one would be happy to see the board adopt it. (I seem to be spilling opinions all over the place... I'll get a mop and clean that up.)


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