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 Post subject: So fucking upset right now. (A rant)
PostPosted: Thu May 05, 2011 12:32 am 
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Maybe this could have gone in another thread. Maybe not. But I don't want to feel like I'm hijacking someone else's thread, sooooooo~

TW: Abuse, of course.

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I've been hanging out with this one guyfriend of mine a lot lately, mostly because I am anti-social as fuck until someone else actually takes the initiative to ask if I want to hang out, and he's pretty much the only one who ever bothers to do that.

He's kind of your typical privileged sort when it comes to a lot of things. This bothers me, but he normally doesn't say anything bad enough to seriously piss me off, so I just kind of subtly inject my feminist ideas into conversation whenever it comes up and hope some of it will rub off on him by osmosis or something.

But yesterday I was hanging out with him and he was telling me a story about how one of his exes dumped her fiancée recently because he "wasn't taking enough initiative with the wedding planning" or something like that. He mentioned that that was a bullshit reason to break up with someone, as traditionally the woman does the planning. I didn't entirely disagree, but emphasized the "traditionally", and brought up that since he only heard the info second-hand that there could have been other aspects to why she left him that she just wasn't eager to bring up. "Maybe he was abusing her or something," I said. "You don't know the whole story."

"Well, they were long-distance, so he couldn't have been physically abusing her."

"Well, there's always mental/emotional abuse."

"Yeah, but you have to be pretty stupid to put up with someone who's doing that, and I don't think she's the type."

"...What?"

"I said--"

"No, I heard what you said. But seriously, what?"

I don't really remember exactly how it went from there, but since I've alluded to the fact that I've been in abusive situations before he basically backtracked, and it ended with me suggesting that maybe I was just naive to have put up with it and of course I would never be dumb enough to get into that situation now (because I am perpetually a people-pleaser and my default response when I vehemently disagree with someone IRL is to agree with them to get them to shut up and move on to another subject, which now that I think about it is probably a side effect of having been abused because I avoid any sort of conflict of any degree like my life fucking depends on it. Yay?)

And sure enough, the subject was changed and the rest of the evening was fairly uneventful other than, in a totally unrelated conversation, he basically admitted that the reason he'd been hanging out with me so much in the first place was because he knew I was technically in an open relationship and he was gauging my interest in him.

I just kind of rolled with it while making damn sure nothing I said could possibly end up stringing him along, and filed it away to think about later.

And then I completely avoided thinking about any of this the remainder of last night, because I knew it would probably end with me having an anxiety attack or something.

And then last night I had a nightmare about a certain abusive ex of mine, of fucking course.

And it's been about 24 hours since all this happened now and I've been having anxiety attacks and shit all day, and have pretty much spent the entire day a.) self-loathing for not standing up for myself yesterday b.) self-loathing for not standing up for myself pretty much ever c.) self-loathing in fucking general, even though I know it's entirely irrational and I ought to fucking stop already, geez d.) thinking about all the myriad ways I've been abused and flashbacking, etc e.) feeling used by the guyfriend since it's evident now he's pretty much been trying to buy his way into my heart for the past two months (and it almost worked, too) f.) self-loathing for it almost working g.) feeling sick to my fucking stomach and wanting to smash things h.) cyber-stalking various abusive people to make sure they aren't stalking me and moved to my state or something, and wishing I had a way to contact the girlfriend of one of my abusive exes to let her know she should gtfo of that relationship at her earliest convenience before he fucks her up like he did me i.) debating cutting off all contact with the guyfriend without even giving him a reason, but fuck if I'm just too much of a people-pleaser to ever do that to someone unless they are seriously a colossal dick, which despite all this he generally isn't j.) just generally feeling like utter shit

So yeah. I'm in a great headspace right now.


But I think most of all I'm upset that here's yet another person I actually made myself vulnerable enough to to confide in, yet played the "tough survivor" at the same time because, y'know, better safe then sorry, only to have it confirmed for me that this is yet another person I've confided in who has let me down and I am not ever, ever allowed to be the vulnerable victim I still feel like at times in front of him, ever, because I'd probably just get blamed for it. Fuck.

And because I'm fucking crazy as shit I'm almost considering sending a link to this thread to him just to passive-aggressively let him know how much he's upset me. But fuck that, because at the end of the day it's not really his fault I've got my panties in a twist so much over one sentence (even though it kind of is).

Do I even make sense in any of this? Augh.

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 Post subject: Re: So fucking upset right now. (A rant)
PostPosted: Thu May 05, 2011 2:14 am 
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You make a lot of sense. Try not to convince yourself it's just a sentence; it's the whole yucky pattern of thought behind the sentence, with an extra double helping of yuckyness because of the fact that the original yuckyness hurts you directly.

The little "I'ma tell everybody else what to do!!" devils in my head want you to actually link him to this thread. Because if he cares about you as a person, one would hope that he wants to know how the things he says affect you so he can be better about it... Right? :|


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 Post subject: Re: So fucking upset right now. (A rant)
PostPosted: Thu May 05, 2011 5:09 am 
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Well, yeah.

Or it would just prove to him how "crazy/broken/whatever" I am and ruin whatever friendship remains.

(Which would probably be more my doing than his at that point, tbh. The moment someone figures out just how frakked up in the head I am I am inclined to completely shut them out. Just in case, y'know, they decide that's a good excuse to add to the problem or something. I don't know.)

What you say makes sense, I just don't think I want to open that can of worms and risk finding out I have to dump him as a friend entirely.

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 Post subject: Re: So fucking upset right now. (A rant)
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This guy seems kind of skeeze. Kind of very skeeze.

I'm sorry he got you into such a messed-up place, Esurio. *box o'hugs*


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 Post subject: Re: So fucking upset right now. (A rant)
PostPosted: Thu May 05, 2011 6:39 pm 
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Thanks, Hex. (Eli, too)

I'm feeling a little bit better today. Not fantastic, but better.

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 Post subject: Re: So fucking upset right now. (A rant)
PostPosted: Thu May 05, 2011 8:37 pm 
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I hope that things are getting better.

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because I am perpetually a people-pleaser and my default response when I vehemently disagree with someone IRL is to agree with them to get them to shut up and move on to another subject, which now that I think about it is probably a side effect of having been abused because I avoid any sort of conflict of any degree like my life fucking depends on it. Yay?

I do this. Not because I was abused, but because I can't deal with conflict (and is a part of my depression). Deflect and accept. Just nod and agree and things will go away.

Not fun. *hugs*


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 Post subject: Re: So fucking upset right now. (A rant)
PostPosted: Fri May 06, 2011 2:14 am 
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I am really sorry, esuriospiritus. It sucks when we only let a few people into our lives, and even they end up sucking.


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 Post subject: Re: So fucking upset right now. (A rant)
PostPosted: Sat May 07, 2011 12:04 am 
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Thanks, Jess and Mom.

I'm feeling okay now but I'm probably going to be avoiding this "friend" for a while.

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 Post subject: Re: So fucking upset right now. (A rant)
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I'm really, really sorry. I have a friend who is also a perpetual people pleaser, (though a bit less-self-aware about it ) after a life time of abusive relationships, and I always get so fucking angry* when I see people taking advantage of that tendency. I'm so sorry that you've run across a clueless douchewaffle like that, and I hope you regain a feeling of safety soon. *hugs* if you want them.


*Angry at the manipulators, obviously, not at her.

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